Greek Orthodox Poo-bah gets secular humanism all wrong!
June 24th, 2010 by Alan
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America’s thirst for oil has created a disaster. Before the spill is stopped, the entire Gulf of Mexico could be ecologically exterminated. I hope I am wrong. But until this disaster is fixed, I hereby call for an immediate moratorium on the recreational use of fossil fuels. A million race cars, boats, Cessnas, jetskis, and other gas-guzzling gadgets will be silent, starting today. To continue to burn fossil fuels for our amusement while the costs of getting it are so disastrously obvious is unconscionable.
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“I find it necessary to wash my hands after I have come into contact with religious people.”
Friedrich Nietzsche
“Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd, and bloody religion that ever infected the world.”
Voltaire
“Even in the valley of the shadow of death, two and two do not make six.”
Leo Tolstoy (refusing deathbed conversion to the Russian Orthodox Church)
The following was sent to the Chicago Tribune:
Dear Voice of the People:
I am writing to respond to the letter by Bishop Demetrios Mokissos, a local Greek Orthodox bigwig. The letter contains misconceptions, misstatements, and adroit verbal tricks to discredit secular humanism/skepticism/atheism. Specifically:
(1) We are not out to convert everybody. It would be nice, but it’s impossible. People like Bishop Mokissos are lost, permanently committed to religion’s fantasy world. To abandon imaginary entities like heaven, hell, angels, God – in which one has invested so much – would be far too costly.
No, Your Eminence (or whatever the correct honorific is), we are trying to convince two groups: the young and the doubters. We already have many secular camps and other such outreach efforts that teach kids to live good lives without religious fantasies.
As for the doubters…the Bishop and his ilk never mention the centuries of death and suffering that religion has caused…or the guilt and ostracism in more civilized societies. A great pity, since, as a species, we are all essentially identical. We don’t even have Neanderthals to kick around any more.
Those who are aware of religion’s horrible history and present misery…who have perhaps themselves been seriously frightened with threats of hell and are beginning to suspect it’s all smoke and mirrors, a mass make-believe – those are the ones whom organized religions will lose, maybe, hopefully. I’ve been in support groups for such people. I’m not bothered by believers’ being “offended” by secular humanists and atheists. It’s a by-product of being honest about religion.
(2) We are not being dogmatic. The scientific method has been the only one that’s been proven to advance human progress. If something better comes along, we’ll consider it. Unlike you, Eminence, we regard truth as changeable, subject to new evidence.
Let us note in passing that religious believers have no problem using the products and technologies of science to spread their delusions and fantasies. You don’t pray to Allah to deliver your message – you go on the Internet and start typing.
(3) It is not a “fallacy” to say that “religious faith cannot coexist with reason, or that religion is opposed to scientific endeavor…” Oh, really? And why exactly did they torture Galileo? Over the centuries and continuing to this very day, religion treats its enemies harshly, because believers know how fragile their case is.
Yes, Eminence, religion does compete with science, in a stark, black-and-white manner: the magnificence of the creation of the universe, beginning with the simplest particles, uniting into the chemical elements, and ultimately, into life and consciousness, over billions of years…versus the simple, six-day set-up project in Genesis; the stunning diversity of life on earth versus the simple myths of creationism. The truth is there for the looking: the awesome story of natural selection and evolution, the explosions of supernovae, the billions of stars and galazies – it’s one or the other, Eminence. Truth or fantasy.
(4) It is not “untrue” that non-religious people have been “shunned” (simple evidence: could an avowed secular humanist be elected to any important office in America?) or that religion has been in retreat. Yes, court decisions have restricted the public display of religion, because this is a SECULAR nation. If the Founders had meant otherwise, they would have said so.
But there are powerful forces in the other direction, e.g., the inordinate influence of fundamentalists in Texas on the textbooks read by kids all over America.
I will admit – cheerfully – that if people leave religion, it is partly because of the progress of science, which leaves less and less for God to do, and tells us much that we used to look to clerics to explain. Too bad, guys. Lose the robes and find yourselves real jobs.
(5) Finally, I accuse the good Bishop of dishonest wordplay when he brands secularists as “intolerant.” We got where we are by being tolerant. We’re not the ones who murdered and persecuted people who didn’t agree with us.
All the good that religion does can be done without all the fantasies and delusions. All the evil that it causes results from differences in superficial, superimposed matters of doctrine and dogma. My god’s stronger than yours. My story’s the right one. Who cares?
If all the resources spent in worshipping and otherwise propitiating imaginary deities were invested in improving the human condition, we would have a much better world.
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Goebbels was on the mark about the phenomenon that if lies are repeated often enough, after a while they become accepted as the truth.
I think that more often than not, religious leaders know that the crap that they are spreading about secular humanism, atheism, etc is a false. But they also know that if they keep hammering away at it as they have done for centuries, the faithful will continue to believe them.
Bravo Alan, well said!
Reply to Rick…
That Goebbels quote — “The truth is what most people believe, and they believe that which is repeated most often” — has long been my favorite, even after all the hundreds of quotes I’ve read about rhetoric and persuasion. It’s cynical but true, century after century.
As for the Bishop and his ilk, perhaps Goebbels’ remark applies to them: they’ve been repeating these canards so often that THEY think they’re true. He may really believe, as he says in his letter, that the denial of fantasy constitutes “intolerance,” but he is twisting the meaning of the word to suit his own purposes.
Reply to Brandon…
Always good to know you’re there. Thanks for the kind words. Hope to see you soon.
shalom,
A.
It’s fair to say that intolerance is found on both ends of the spectrum. Romans persecute x-tians, who then do so to the pagans and Juz, who get whacked by the Prostatestants and other derivatives, followed by genocides by atheist commies/ists.
So historically everyones a hipo-crite when it comes to in/tolerance.
As for knowing what the truth is, it’s at the bottom of a bottomless well. Being dumped there as the first casualty of war.
Reply to What Goes…
Secular humanists may be impatient and exasperated at the relentless grip that religion exerts on the minds of believers, but there’s a big diference between torturing, persecuting, ostracizing and murdering unbelievers…and resisting religion’s attempts to take over education, society and government. Of these things I am proudly intolerant.
Please, please, PLEASE do not repeat the canard that fascists and totalitarians do what they do because they are atheists. They simply create state religions that deify the Fuehrer, the Volk, Mother Russia, or some other imaginary entity.
shalom,
A.
Alan,
Right on about the Soviet Union worshiping the State (as a replacement fo the Orthodox Church. But despite this, and even though the likes of Stalin claimed to atheists, they never used non-belief in the state or a sky daddy per se as an excuse to commit the atrocities that they perpetrated. In other words they were human rights violators who happened to be atheists.
Believers don’t seem to get the distinction between this and theistic leaders who commit violence and aggression against others in the name of God, Jesus, Allah, or whomever.
And BTW since the downfall of the USSR, the Orthodox Church is regaining its primacy in the hearts and minds or Russians.
Personally, when it comes faith, I prefer the sentiment that I once saw on a bumper sticker: “Everybody has to believe in something. I believe I’ll have another beer. “
It’s not that atheism leads to violence any more than religion does. A violent philophy can be a/theistic.
That’s my whole point. Those in power use their beliefs as the excuse for war and conquest, be it for the state, country, tribe, future of humanity, or the big sky daddy/parent/creator/ etc.
It’s all about doing them before they do you; something the love preaching religions tried to stop. Giving all the power to the state is not worship; they glorified their government and were willing to kill each other for nationalistic goals, with patriotic zeal, but it was never worship. Even with the great dictators. But that doesn’t matter since the end product was the same.
So, really, even if one believed in Leprechauns and other in atoms, it did not matter to the person on the receiving end of the bullet.
Reply to Rick:
Russia is pretty backwards as religion vs. reason. Some great scientists, but some massive pseudo-scientific frauds, and of course, a pervasive virulent nativism, a long history of organized religion, and somehow missing the Renaissance and Enlightenment. I’m not surprised that religion is making a comeback. The liturgical language is Old Church Slavonic, very like modern Russian.
To What Goes…
Obedience to a dictator, to beliefs, nations — the result is the same.
How, in the long development of consciousness, did this idea develop — that we should abandon our free will and mindlessly execute the commands of one person? Did it make a tribe more organized in war, thus more successful at perpetuating the obedience gene?
shalom,
A.